Sunday 23 April 2023

The pitiful GERS numbers Denier that is the Wee Ginger Dug.

 So not far away from 9 years after Indyref in 2014  Nationalist fake propaganda writers are still trying to deliberately deceive Scottish Voters on the Truthfulness of the GERS numbers 

The reality deniers who cling to the GERS figures « Wee Ginger Dug (wordpress.com)

We can though see and hear for ourselves what Alex Salmond said about the GERS numbers for ourselves here  (Alex Salmond: GERS supporter - YouTube  

We also know what Nicola sturgeon Herself said on the GERS numbers 


We can also see for ourselves on live Video what Scottish MSP's and Nationalist Economists themselves said at this Holyrood Finance Meeting.  Prof Richard Murphy at Holyrood Committee - YouTube   

The Scottish Parliaments own Economic Advisors published this Podcast themselves to help voters in Scotland to be properly able to understand Scotland's own Truthful Economic Numbers. 

GERS 2020: Socially distance from the myths | FAI (fraserofallander.org)   

The director of the institute is Professor Graeme Roy, a former Senior Economic Adviser and head of the First Minister's Policy Unit under Nicola Sturgeon. Fraser of Allander Institute - Wikipedia

Other Sources of Reference.

Scottish taxes don’t subsidise English spending - Full Fact 

Scottish independence would be 2-3 times more costly than Brexit, and rejoining the EU won't make up the difference | LSE BREXIT

Gavin McCrone on Radio 2 Discussing Scottish Economics BBC Radio Scotland - Good Morning Scotland, 02/03/2019, Long Interview: Dr Gavin McCrone

"The fiscal transfers made to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (and indeed the North and Midlands and of England) are normal within a fiscal union – but would cease under independence or ‘full fiscal autonomy’. To offset the end of these fiscal transfers, some combination of tax rises or spending cuts would be needed, unless faster economic growth could be quickly delivered in an independence or full fiscal autonomy scenario" Updated projections of Scotland's fiscal position - and their implications | Institute for Fiscal Studies (ifs.org.uk)  

Leaving Union would be Brexit times Ten says Sturgeon's Own Advisor. Leaving Union would be Brexit times ten, says Sturgeon adviser (thetimes.co.uk)


Understanding why the GERS numbers are Factually true. 

The SNP currently OWN the GERS numbers as they have done since 2007 when they were voted into Holyrood as the Scottish Government. All the SNP's own annual changes they made to the GERS numbers since they were voted into office in 2007 can be seen here on the Scot Government Document Archive Website. [ARCHIVED CONTENT] Methodology (nrscotland.gov.uk)

The SNP themselves spent 6 years changing the GERS numbers to their own design and the SNP themselves chose in 2013 to use their own designed GERS for the basis of their own famous White Paper "Scotland's Future" and that White Paper Document itself highlights GERS as being the factual reference used by the Scottish Government to run Scotland.  https://youtu.be/GGR_M42sicg?t=115


























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Monday 13 September 2021

Wings over Scotlands fake propaganda attempting to misinform on Scottish Law

 If you didn't previously understand  Wings over Scotland was anything other than a fake propaganda blog feeding misinformation to its readers then this should help you finally to see the light. https://archive.is/Tatlc  











Wings can be seen here desperately trying to falsely sell the idea that Craig Murray was unjustly Jailed on some sort of invented crime of "Jigsaw Identification" which however is a charge wholly invented by Wings himself as the actual crime Craig Murray was Jailed for was in fact "Contempt of Court." alone. The fact this assertion made by Wings is untrue we should assume until actually proven otherwise that lots of his other assertions on the Prison Services treatment of Craig Murray in the same blog are also potentially untrue as well because anyone would be a complete utter fool believing anything written on a propaganda blog without finding other external factual sources to back them up

A full summary of the whole Court Case proceedings against Craig Murray can be seen on the Scottish Courts Document link provided  and can be clearly seen to be for "Contempt of Court" not for Wings own invented crime of "Jigsaw Identification".  While reading the whole text is an eye opening experience on the whole case a shorter summary if chosen could be read within pages 36-42 of it. 

https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/docs/default-source/cos-general-docs/pdf-docs-for-opinions/2021hcj002.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2BECuq6OluW_Fd_2zDDexAu6Xh_6MTwtdhKiiKo7altQJmMRsdiuZpQb4











The Guardian Newspaper also laid out the Contempt of Court charges in an article.       "Lady Dorrian, Scotland’s second most senior judge, said Murray’s offences were so serious and deliberate he deserved imprisonment, despite a plea from his lawyer that the 62-year-old was too infirm to go to jail, and had a young family. She said his repeated breaches, which included refusing to take down the blogposts despite legal warnings from the Crown Office, were a “contempt of considerable gravity”.  His actions “strike at the heart of the fair administration of justice”, she added."Sitting with Lords Turnbull and Menzies, Dorrian, the lord justice clerk, said Murray’s actions had not only risked identifying four complainers but could also frighten rape complainers, the Scottish legal term for complainants, from stepping forward in future, particularly in high-profile cases involving powerful defendants.

Several of Murray’s followers said they had identified complainers as a result of his blogposts, yet he continued to keep them online.

Murray “understood the risk inherent in the action he was taking, deliberately decided to run that risk knowing that jigsaw identification of the complainers might result, and did so repeatedly. It appears from the posts and articles that he was in fact relishing the task he set himself.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/11/former-ambassador-craig-murray-jailed-for-alex-salmond-case-blogposts

So while Wings continues to try to flog the already dead Horse that Craig Murray is a completely innocent  man unjustly jailed we can see from the Legal court Summary and other published articles that Craig Murray in truth set out to aid the identification of accusers in a court trial despite a court order being already in place to protect those accusers identities.

Craig Murray was aware a protection order was in place yet at no point did he appear to care of the implications of exposing accusers names or for their safety.

Craig Murray chose his course of action knowing the risks and doesn't appear to have given a thought either for the implications of his deliberate actions for his own later protestations of  poor Health or for the wellbeing of his own Wife and young Children while jailed, but only after his conviction did these considerations come into any sort of play which would suggest Craig Murray might not give much of a damn about anyone but himself in truth in many peoples eyes and later on was merely trying act the part the wounded party instead. 

If Wings invented propaganda trying to portray Craig Murray as an innocent man is beyond the pale then how did so many of his faithful but equally clueless fan club still fall for his  propaganda Wee Blue Book on Scottish Independence which rather than being "full of useful facts " which were actually based on already out of date Scottish Government 2011-2012 GERS financial figures when later Scottish Government 2012-2013 GERS data (which also included a £1.2Bn downgrade to the earlier numbers) were already available to him to use at the time of publication instead ?  Its estimated that approx £300K was raised from crowdfunding to print and distribute the Wee Blue Book which when based on already out of date financial numbers in the first place was a complete waste of so many peoples hard earned cash but as an act of probable fake propaganda on the wider Nationalist movement itself was something of a masterstroke (depending on your point of view) and if it was only fit for the dustbin in 2013 then it isn't worth even a passing look for "facts" at todays date when another 8 years of newer Scot Gov figures now exist. If anyone is in doubt of the value of the Wee Blue Book all you have to do is to look and see what year of GERS it uses and the much later date the WBB was published. 

More information on and errors from the Wee Blue Book debunked here  https://chokkablog.blogspot.com/2015/10/wings-and-his-wee-blue-book-of-errors.html

and here https://chokkablog.blogspot.com/2015/10/wings-wee-blue-book-of-errors-part-ii.html

Scottish Government link showing the £1.2 Billion downward amended 2011-2012 GERS numbers published along with the 2012-2013 GERS numbers in March 2014.   https://www.gov.scot/publications/government-expenditure-revenue-scotland-2012-13/pages/11/

Date of Publication of Wee Blue Book shown here as 11 August 2014   https://wingsoverscotland.com/weebluebook/


Other links worth reading on the WBB 

https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2014/09/scotland-and-snp-fooling-yourselves-and.html


GERS Meeting at Holyrood including a statement from Margaret Cuthbert. 

https://youtu.be/Ee0442kULmg?t=3860


Podcast explanation of GERS from Scottish Parliaments own Economic Advisors 

  https://fraserofallander.org/gers-2020-socially-distance-yourself-from-the-myths-and-furore/

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Sunday 14 February 2021

Everything you ever wanted to know about the GERS numbers is here .

 Why should Scots be able to trust the GERS numbers which are Scotlands financial accounts and published on the Worldwide Internet ?

The above question is partly self answering , why would the SNP Scot Gov allow publication of economic numbers on the Worldwide Internet for the leaders of any Country of any Government in the World to see for themselves if they were not reliable truthful numbers ? Allowing the publication of false numbers would mean any Government allowing that wouldn't be taken seriously and there are no Senior Members of the SNP dispute the GERS numbers are not already 100% reliable. 

The Video link given below here shows the SNP's long associated Economist Margaret Cuthbert , Richard Murphy and other Scottish MSP's at a Holyrood Commitee Meeting in 2017 , Cuthbert makes clear here she spent years checking the numbers and being involved in updating GERS to make them as accurate as possible, she also says the SNP has its own Group that makes changes to the GERS numbers. 

Margaret Cuthbert, Richard Murphy and Scottish MSP's at Holyrood Meeting on GERS Video Here


Here is a Podcast and  published Website articles on how both UK and Scotlands economics works from the Economics Dept of Strathclyde University here.

Podcast : Strathclyde University GERS Podcast  (Worth listening to)

How the Scotland inside the UK Economic model currently works Scotlands economy in the UK 

Guide to understanding the GERS Report from Strathclyde University GERS Guide 2020 

More on the accuracy of GERS & "Confidence Levels" GERS Accuracy & Confidence levels


"Back to School for GERS", what the numbers mean ,who makes them and some commentary on the numbers from 2019. Back to School for GERS 2019  

Wikpedia Link to "Who are Fraser of Allander at Strathclyde University" which includes the statement "The director of the institute is Professor Graeme Roy, a former Senior Economic Adviser and head of the First Minister's Policy Unit under Nicola Sturgeon."  Who are Fraser of Allander ?

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The Scottish Government GERS report 2020 can be found on the Scottish Government website here Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (GERS) 2019-2020 - gov.scot (www.gov.scot)   which shows that for the financial year 

2019-2020  Scotland spent £81bn (seen in Table S.5)  but raised less from ALL Scotlands own Tax Revenues at £65.8bn (seen in Table S.3) which means an overspend of approx £15bn. 

By scrolling down the lower half of the linked page the Scottish Government also provides some commonly asked Questions and Answers ..a few of them coped to here.

"Q: Who produces GERS?

A: GERS is produced by Scottish Government statisticians. It is designated as a National Statistics product, which means that it is produced independently of Scottish Ministers and has been assessed by the UK Statistics Authority as being produced in line with the Code of Practice for Statistics. This means the statistics have been found to meet user needs, to be methodologically sound, explained well and produced free of political interference.

Q: Do you use company headquarters to assign corporation tax or taxes like VAT?

A: No. Corporation tax on trading profits is estimated on a company-by-company basis, depending on the economic activity each company has in Scotland, not location of company headquarters. VAT is a consumption tax, and is therefore estimated based on purchases that are made in Scotland, rather than the location of a company’s head office.

Q: How do taxes from the whisky industry feature in the GERS estimates?

A: Like any industry, the whisky industry’s activity in Scotland generates tax revenue through a range of sources, such as corporation tax on profits, income tax and national insurance contributions on staff earnings, and non-domestic rates payments on business premises. These are all captured in the estimates of Scottish public sector receipts reported in GERS.

In addition, whisky consumed in the UK is subject to VAT and alcohol duty. This is assigned to Scotland on the basis of how much is consumed in Scotland. Whisky which is exported does not generate UK VAT or alcohol duty. There is no export duty in the UK.

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The Scottish Government also produce another page on Question and Answers on Scottish Exports including this one which is often used to deliberately misinform people 

Scottish Government Scottish Exports Questions and Answers

Are Scottish goods which are exported via ports from the rest of the UK counted as international Scottish exports?

Yes. The ESS publication measures the destination of goods exported from Scotland regardless of the port from which they leave the UK.

How are Scotch Whisky exports treated?

All international exports relevant to Scotch Whisky are counted as Scottish exports, irrespective of the port at which they depart the UK. The data is sourced from the HMRC Overseas Trade Statisitcs report.

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As it isn't everyone who can easily understand complicated financial reports there is an easier and simpler explanation  of one single years GERS figures for 2018-2019 here , it is fully cross referenced to the Scottish Governments own website numbers so that you can doublecheck and verify  the information given for yourself.

2018-2019 GERS figures simply explained here   

The follow up to that article can be found here and is also worth a read What GERS can and cannot tell us

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Along with the debunking of the "Whisky Export Taxes" and "Scottish Goods through English Ports"  misinformation revealed on the Scottish Governments own website earlier there are others that can be easily exposed as being completely deliberate fraudulent lies. 

"Scotland pays for Londons New Sewer System "  This one is another deliberate Lie spread around many places by Nationalist Fake propagandists of which this is only one of many versions.

This is only one of hundreds of fake invented memes by Yes Scotland and you would be a complete fool to beleive any of them they are only produced to deceive.

 This one though called the London Tideway Tunnel has information on it on Thames Water companies own Website and reveals the only people paying for it will be its own customers alone. Who will pay for London Tideway new Sewer ? Just another one of the hundreds of Nationalist Lies used to deliberately misinform other Scottish people, ask yourself seriously why they need to do that ?

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With the Holyrood election now coming in May new Nationalist fake propagandists have started to appear already.


Making the false claim Scotland is paying Billions for HS2 , the actual truth published by the Scottish Government that can be found online in their own published accounts added up to £131 million in a whole 5 years. More information on this Lie can be found on this link here Nationalist HS2 propaganda lies

If Scottish Independence is such a good thing why do so many Nationalits organisations spend so much of their time deliberately lying to Scotland ? It's almost as if they are afraid to campaign honestly ?
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Another wholesale producer of Nationalist fake propaganda memes is " Business For Scotland" and its sister propaganda unit  "Beleive in Scotland "  which are both filled with exactly the same invented meaningless propaganda produced by one Gordon McInytre Kemp.


So how do we know this is just rubbish ? Well for a start it simply asserts this is fact a without actually showing us where the evidence comes from or whether its even real or even matters. This is a common theme with all Nationalist memes, you are just simply to swallow they are truthful without any evidence to prove that they actually are (and you can bet they are NOT)  This one is basically a play on Scotlands Oil Revenues which Scotland produces large volumes of in the past but we know the future of Oil Revenues is not going to be good as we move to an electric vehicle future. Although Oil Revenues produce large Sales Volume Value it also costs an awful lot to get out the ground and to refine which means the actual profits from Oil are pretty small as a fraction of the Sales value,  on top of these very slim profits the Scottish Government only gets Taxes on Oil producers so Kemps attempts at trying to bullshit people with fake propaganda memes like this actually don't mean very much at all and so  Business For Scotland and Beleive in Scotland are better ignored for their fake propaganda is worthless, better to get real numbers from Scottish Governments own website and other verifiable sources than from fake propaganda outfits like these. 

More information on Business for Scotland, its fake propagandists and debunked articles are available here  Stop getting GERS wrong  and here The big lie about Scotlands Oil  and here Who Do Business for Scotland Represent ?

Another recent push of nefarious invented propaganda seen below here , all of this stuff is just regurgitated meaningless rubbish that was also being circulated during Indyref in 2014 and is just the same pitiful misinformation attempt but put through a "rinse and repeat redesign cycle" for new "useful idiots" to swallow. Are you going to be one of them ?   All this sort of stuff was debunked years ago elsewhere and can still be found on this link. The big Meaningless list 


Of course all they want you to do is "Beleive "  and don't dare actually take ten minutes  to think for yourself and investigate whether you are just the target of a Con trick deliberately trying to mislead Scots Voters on the realistic size of real economic numbers that the Scottish Government already publish elsewhere themselves.  The big Meaningless list . The Scottish Government publishes details of  how it collects actual real Tax Revenues from any profits companies make from all of these items , ita ONLY taxes collected from company profits that really matters and how that is done can be found here. Open the document and scroll down for the full list of items th Scottish Government collects tax revenues from.

SCOTTISH GOVERNMENT DETAILED REVENUE METHODOLOGY PAPER 2019-20

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Another good source for finding debunking of Nationalist fake memes can be found here 

A year on and some crap about the Vow  

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So the after all this information , the really important question again is, if Independence for Scotland is supposedly so good then why do Nationalists organisations spend so much of their time deliberately trying to lie to other Scots voters about it with so much invented fake garbage ? Especially so when they spend so much of their time actually trying to rubbish the factual financial numbers their very OWN SNP Scottish Government produces itself and publishes to the whole World already ? 


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Saturday 4 July 2020

SNP are fully responsible for Covid19 failures , Lockdown NOT to blame.



"A report has suggested today that half of coronavirus deaths could have been prevented had we locked down earlier. The Scottish Government are now suggesting they were prevented from locking down earlier. This is rewriting of history to avoid accountability. A thread.."

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Thursday 12 March 2020

Who is Leslie Evans the current Permanent Secretary to the Scottish Government ?


Scottish Nationalists think Leslie Evans works for and was appointed by the UK Government and thus an Agent of the Evil Tories . So is any of this true ?

None of it :- She was appointed by Nicola Sturgeon Herself as Sturgeon's own preferred choice.
"Leslie Evans (born 11 December 1958) is the Permanent Secretary to the Scottish Government. In this role, Evans is the principal policy adviser to the First Minister and Secretary to the Scottish Cabinet.
She is also the Principal Accountable Officer for the Scottish Government, with personal responsibility for the propriety and regularity of Government finance and for economic, efficient and effective use of all related resources.
Evans is the senior civil servant in Scotland and leads more than 5,000 civil servants working for the Scottish Government, supporting development, implementation and communication of government policies, in accordance with the Civil Service Code. At a UK level, she is a member of the Civil Service Board." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Evans



Even before taking the job of Permanent Secretary (which is an appointment made directly by the Scottish First Minister) Leslie Evans already worked for the Scottish Government as Director General Learning and Justice.
"Evans joined the Scottish Government in September 2000,[2] having spent 20 years working for local authorities in Scotland (City of Edinburgh Council and Stirling Council) and England (London Borough of Greenwich and Sheffield City Council).
Her previous post within the Scottish Government was Director General Learning and Justice. Previous positions include Head of Local Government Constitution & Governance Division, Head of Public Service Reform Group, Head of Tourism, Culture and Sport, and Director of Culture, External Affairs and Tourism".
Leslie Evan's works  directly to Nicola Sturgeon NOT for the WM Government.
Mhiari Hunter is Nicola Sturgeons own Campaign Manager.


Leslie Evans was Nicola Sturgeons own choice 





"Dumped on us by Westminster" demonstrates well how so many Idiots who can barely string a coherent sentence together don't really have any knowledge of real facts. 



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Who do real Scots think inside the SNP itself are the only people to have the power and authority to be able to do this on the SNP's own Website ? "Alex Salmond accuses Nicola Sturgeon of rewriting SNP history" If it had been deleted by accident it would have easily been put back within days. Only people at the very top of the SNP could have ordered this to happen.


The details of the actions against Alex Salmond were published by the Editor of the Daily Record Murray Foote , how did he obtain that information ? Who on the inside of the SNP  passed it to him ?

Murray Foote has now been given a job as an SNP "Spin Doctor"  , who in the SNP had that idea and on whose authority was he actually employed ? Could he have been given that job for helping stitch up Alex Salmond ?  If so who else was part of that conspiracy to Jail Alex Salmond ? 


So who is it in the SNP who has the power to hire someone off the Street and put them into the position of "Top" Spin Doctor ? And what was the real reason for hiring him ? 
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